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Weren't organised religions the first seperatists?

I honestly don't think the rift can be healed. Too much power tied up in maintaining lies and halfarsed faiths that fall apart under scrutiny. To me, it looks like there are two kinds of people in the world. Those that bow down and never take a stand or have a real individual experience, ever. Or those that strive to learn all they can about the human experience...

I may be talking utter bollocks here. If so, just burn me at the stake someone. Ta...
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Lugh wrote:Weren't organised religions the first seperatists?

I honestly don't think the rift can be healed. Too much power tied up in maintaining lies and halfarsed faiths that fall apart under scrutiny. To me, it looks like there are two kinds of people in the world. Those that bow down and never take a stand or have a real individual experience, ever. Or those that strive to learn all they can about the human experience...

I may be talking utter bollocks here. If so, just burn me at the stake someone. Ta...
Rifts can be healed, look at the UK and Ireland. We couldn't do without a pint of the black stuff. :lol:

Its not the individuals thats the problem, it's the governments (along with the companies that produce weapons). These are the only people that profit from war.

Taking into account that there are some nut cases around, there are far more people that want to live in peace.
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jo wrote:Rifts can be healed, look at the UK and Ireland. We couldn't do without a pint of the black stuff. :lol:

Its not the individuals thats the problem, it's the governments (along with the companies that produce weapons). These are the only people that profit from war.

Taking into account that there are some nut cases around, there are far more people that want to live in peace.
Fair enough. But, isn't the right to a peaceful life and co-existence with everyone else in the world, worth demanding? The problem has always been the same. There are those few in the world who have either terrorised their communities / world into submission on threat of more of the same. Or have generated great wealth and therefore alliances through dogma. Religion is a business first and foremost. Just like war. The 'few' mentioned above profit and will continue to profit from both. They will never have an interest in hearing what 'the rest of the world thinks' and will continue to lay down fire and thwart all progress.

You refer to Ireland and the UK. That was a political conflict (a bloody awful and pointless one at that) which became magnified through religion. It was easier for people to centre themselves in one community or the other for whatever political beliefs or opinions they held and then never venture out. Fear spread like wildfire in Northern Ireland. The clergy and politicians made a mint out of lies about their opponents. Then good people forgot their similarities, and went to war.

Humanity has a simple choice to make. Either wake up and realise there are no gods, or continue to perptuate a lie that has been at the core of possibly every bad situation we've faced as a species.

Like many others, I'm moving forward. I don't have time to forgive or pander to already over-indulged politics or religion anymore. That would take a martyr complex, which grips hold of us through continued dogmatic practice...
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upstate wrote:
jo wrote:Rifts can be healed, look at the UK and Ireland. We couldn't do without a pint of the black stuff. :lol:

Its not the individuals thats the problem, it's the governments (along with the companies that produce weapons). These are the only people that profit from war.

Taking into account that there are some nut cases around, there are far more people that want to live in peace.
Fair enough. But, isn't the right to a peaceful life and co-existence with everyone else in the world, worth demanding? The problem has always been the same. There are those few in the world who have either terrorised their communities / world into submission on threat of more of the same. Or have generated great wealth and therefore alliances through dogma. Religion is a business first and foremost. Just like war. The 'few' mentioned above profit and will continue to profit from both. They will never have an interest in hearing what 'the rest of the world thinks' and will continue to lay down fire and thwart all progress.

You refer to Ireland and the UK. That was a political conflict (a bloody awful and pointless one at that) which became magnified through religion. It was easier for people to centre themselves in one community or the other for whatever political beliefs or opinions they held. Then never venture out. Fear spread like wildfire in Northern Ireland. The clergy and politicians made a mint out of lies about their opponents People forgot their similarities and went to war.
Yes, you are right on all of the above. People are the same everywhere though and most don't get off their arses and do/say anything until it is on their doorstep.

How many people watch the news and sit there saying, oh in it terrible. Then when it comes to elections vote according to their pocket. It's a joke. I will stand by what I said earlier in this tread that it will get far worse before it gets better.

We should start our own political party.
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jo wrote:We should start our own political party.
We should indeed. But, think about it:-

The Sensitize Party. Sounds like a rave..! :shock:

Actually. Hold on. That is a good idea... Raves at every government building on the planet, linked via the internet and satallite...

We'd be in charge by teatime... :P
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Lugh wrote:
jo wrote:We should start our own political party.
We should indeed. But, think about it:-

The Sensitize Party. Sounds like a rave..! :shock:

Actually. Hold on. That is a good idea... Raves at every government building on the planet, linked via the internet and satallite...

We'd be in charge by teatime... :P
Yes and they have duty free bars. Oh and smoking rooms.

No-one would ever argue, peace, love and rave party!

It'll be a winner. 8)
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what really fucks me off;

sit in a room with good minded people, all in agreement that we are fucked everyday by corporations, dickhead governments, pollution, racist propaganda, UN admitting they sexually exploit woman and children, Un peacekeepers raping women and children, nothing is done about it

and we sit there chatting about it

AND WE START TO ARGUE BETWEEN OURSELVES

WTF!

You dont see the evil fuck-tards arguing about how to fuck us over everyday, but we argue and abuse each other just to conclude by saying
"yes, the gov and corporations are the problem but YOU are making it worse"

gahhh, we are the harshest critics of ourselves.

fucks me off.

point -in-case
turn up to a 'fuck shell they are cunts' protest
people say hi, how did you get here
by car i reply
"evil bastard, begone from our protest of purity"

eh?
i agree with you, dont kick me out.

:shock:
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zark wrote:what really fucks me off;

sit in a room with good minded people, all in agreement that we are fucked everyday by corporations, dickhead governments, pollution, racist propaganda, UN admitting they sexually exploit woman and children, Un peacekeepers raping women and children, nothing is done about it

and we sit there chatting about it

AND WE START TO ARGUE BETWEEN OURSELVES

WTF!
That's true, but the alternative, which has been the case so far, is extreme acts of violence including political assassinations running in tandem with wholesale destruction of elitest properties. That's because these 'leaders' - the corporations, politicians, racists and rapists cannot be reasoned with... They bring about all of the frustrations we as a global community feel.

Nah. People have to collectively refuse to pay taxes if they're self-employed. Grind industry to a halt in acts of solidarity with the sufferers and victims. Refuse to go to war, etc. Simply refuse. Say no to corrupt governments, but in a way that buckles their machine and costs them dearly. I mean, face it. We'd go on strike for better pay. Why not go on strike for a better world? A world where our voices are heard and politicians actually do what they're told and toe the line...
zark wrote:You dont see the evil fuck-tards arguing about how to fuck us over everyday, but we argue and abuse each other just to conclude by saying "yes, the gov and corporations are the problem but YOU are making it worse"
And they use our frustrations against us. Like I said, refuse. Openly tell them that it's they who will have blood on their hands because we have had enough...
zark wrote:gahhh, we are the harshest critics of ourselves.

fucks me off.

point -in-case
turn up to a 'fuck shell they are cunts' protest
people say hi, how did you get here
by car i reply
"evil bastard, begone from our protest of purity"

eh?
i agree with you, dont kick me out.

:shock:
Look closer at this one. The word 'purity' is also an enemy. The notion that anything is pure anymore is delusional. The world is fucked environmentally. All we can do is clutch back some control on how fast its death comes about, while constantly remembering that no matter how insignificant or small we think our actions and protests, we are all equals in the campaign to heal our home...

Oh, and the next time some wanker judges you for turning up by car to protest. Look at their shoes. Are they leather? Are they plastic? Either way, the environment has been butchered to get them. Point that out to the silly fools, loudly ;)...
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NÁ BÍ AG CÁINT..! - DON'T BE SPEAKING / TALKING..!

IT'S A HELL OF A FREE WORLD, AIN'T IT?
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There are still laws in place today in NI that say that the Irish language cannot be spoken? WTF? Seriously, such laws were abolished in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall yonks ago. (Admittedly the Cornish language is technically speaking dead, along with the Isle of Mann langauge, but thats not the point)...

Good for her, its about time this law was overturned as it is as the article states, clearly a breach of various EU treaties.
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the_leander wrote:There are still laws in place today in NI that say that the Irish language cannot be spoken? WTF?
'What the fuck?' indeed mate... To be honest, this one has really pissed me off. I believe that this is absolutely ridiculous! Máire Nic an Bhaird is a teacher of a language that is thankfully flourishing in its native land and being accepted across a very broad spectrum of Irish society as a key source of much of the roots of Irish artistry and culture.

Many road signs now have both English and Irish on them as well as many other European and global languages. Is that same PSNI officer going to run around Northern Ireland, spraying over every Gaelic direction or phrase? What a dickhead! He really is indicative of the thug mentality that used to run the show here. He should be in jail on institutional racism charges.

I am not fluent in Irish but I know enough about it to know that as a writer I draw upon the humour and musicality of our culture. Irish Gaelic contains many observations that are definitively Irish and that get lost in translation. There is humour of the most wonderfully warped nature, completely surreal that can turn-on untold amounts of laughter and leave people in hysterics with the giggles. I could go on, but I'm sure you know that cultural and ethnic identity and the right to express and live that cultural life, must be respected.

If Argie, Delph, Jo or you chose to write a piece of work and post it here in your own dialect and language, then I would be more than happy to have it on here. I would however appreciate a translation if applicable lol...
the_leander wrote:Seriously, such laws were abolished in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall yonks ago. (Admittedly the Cornish language is technically speaking dead, along with the Isle of Mann langauge, but thats not the point)...

Good for her, its about time this law was overturned as it is as the article states, clearly a breach of various EU treaties.
I raise my glass of Uisce Beatha* to you Alan.

Nice one mate :wink:
  • *Irish Gaelic ~ pronounced; 'Ishka Baha'
    English translation ~ Whiskey...
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Gor blimey, guv <---- comment by delph in her own dialect/language.
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delph_ambi wrote:Gor blimey, guv <---- comment by delph in her own dialect/language.
Hear Hear!
Lugh impersonating the entire House of Lords :lol: ...
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Lugh wrote:NÁ BÍ AG CÁINT..! - DON'T BE SPEAKING / TALKING..!

IT'S A HELL OF A FREE WORLD, AIN'T IT?
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