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The BlueGreenEarth Experience (1, 2, 3, 4)
An extensive interview with Tim Barton of BlueGreenEarth by Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 2008. (This is a copyleft interview) Some rights reserved.

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Lugh: Do BlueGreenEarth have any opinions on the amount of new bacteria and virii affecting humanity? Or to put it another way. Do BlueGreenEarth believe nature is fighting back in a bid to save itself from humanity and remain a BlueGreenEarth?

Tim: "I believe that population cycles and resource over-use create strains on the global ecology. I believe that we as a species are pushing limits that risk a complete crash of our ecological niches, and that we endanger the wider environment more than most previous species ever could have as we push the barriers and as we crash out. I believe the Earth may work systemically in a way akin to the homeostatic mechanism Lovelock suggests, but I believe that that is a mortal and limited mechanism, and it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that we may imperil its diversity and resilience far more than many believe us capable of doing – whilst the world 'may' here is not a cop-out, I do think it a possibility (hopefully an outside chance) that we could trigger a flip from one stable state to another, feasibly resulting in a 'Venus effect' or similar). I believe that the system may be resilient enough to prosper in the aftermath of our demise (a demise I never thought inevitable, but which relied upon a window of opportunity – a sweet point where technics and ethics were coming together – that is slamming shut, so becoming harder to avert by the minute), but that the time required for recovery (if recovery is defined by species diversity, dynamism and possibly an evolution toward species sentience at some levels) may be so long that mankind should weep for the damage we wrought.

I do not believe that nature is fighting back in any supernatural or conscious way. Frankly if it were able to do so with any planning of efficiency we might have been eradicated long since. The Earth can't act to save itself, but the dynamical systems that make up the biosphere will inevitably curb us at some point and in some way. The longer we continue our amazingly fast encroachment upon resources that we depend upon to survive, the swifter and harder the fall, for our species at least. But as I say, the strange attractor our systems are in is not one that we can guarantee the planet will not be kicked out of by extreme events. The development of some type of noosphere, global mind etc as posited by some writers is a slow and contingent event, if even possible. The hints of it we have seen over the last decades are ambiguous at best. But if it is possible, it's time is now or never."

Lugh: In the grand scale of things. How effective do BlueGreenEarth believe the 29th March, 2008 powering down of all lights around the world was?

Tim: "If the world had indeed powered down all the lights, then it would mean we had a will to act, even though in itself that would be a pretty minor event. But, as hardly anyone joined in, it was all a bit pointless… Though, if the marketing drive behind the idea gets up a greater head of steam year on year, it may become increasingly meaningful. I worry that these things are mere gesture politics, salving middle-class bleeding heart conscience but thus merely bankrolling profligate over-use of resources for the rest of the year, but I am a cynical git.

That's a long-winded guffaw, then!"

Lugh: Finally. Are there any other groups or websites BlueGreenEarth would like to acknowledge in this interview with Sensitize ©?

Tim: "Obviously, our own direct affiliates (as above), especially the ESEI http://www.europeansocialecologyinstitute.org/ and the MySpace http://www.myspace.com/socialecologyinstituteeu

But also:

Social Ecology London - http://socialecologylondon.wordpress.com/
Institute of Anarchist Studies - http://www.anarchist-studies.org/
Anarchist Archives - http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/
Culture Change - http://www.culturechange.org
PowerSwitch – http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/
ASPO Ireland - http://aspo-ireland.org/
Resource Insights - http://resourceinsights.blogspot.com/
Amanda Kovattana - http://www.amandakovattana.blogspot.com
David Holmgren - www.holmgren.com.au
Glen Barry's Earth Meanders - http://earthmeanders.blogspot.com
Larry Santoyo - http://www.earthflow.com/
Earth Policy Institute - http://www.earth-policy.org
William Bowles - http://www.williambowles.info/
Campaign for the Accountability of American Bases - http://www.caab.org.uk
Center for International Policy - http://americas.irc-online.org
George Monbiot's An Activist Guide to Exploiting the Media - http://www.gn.apc.org/pmhp/gs/handbook/media.htm

Books – very short core list from very long list, would alter weekly!

Murray Bookchin Post-Scarcity Anarchism
Murray Bookchin Towards an Ecological Society
Janet Biehl The Politics of Social Ecology / Libertarian Municipalism
Vernon Bogdanor Devolution in the UK
Jeremy Brecher & Tim Costello Global Village or Global Pilage: Economic Reconstruction From the Bottom Up
Michael Jacobs The Green Economy Environment, Sustainable Development & the Politics of the Future
Leopold Kohr The Breakdown of Nations
John Madeley Big Business, Poor Peoples: The Impact of Transnational Corporations on the World's Poor
George Monbiot Captive State: The Corporate Takeover of Britain
Dennis Pirages Global Technopolitics: The International Politics of Technology and Resources
George Ritzer The McDonaldization of Society
William R. Catton Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change
Marshall McLuhan Understanding Media: Tools as the Extension of Man
Paul Omerod The Death of Economics
John Humphrys The Great Food Gamble
George Monbiot The Captive State
Andre Gorz Ecology as Politics"

Lugh: Tim Barton. It has been an honour and a privilege getting to know more about what you and your colleagues at BlueGreenEarth are aiming to bring around. Thank you for taking the time out to respond to my questions for Sensitize © ...

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