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Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:02 am**

it is homicide.
Ode to Jean Charles de Menezes.
A Haiku Poem by Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 16th July, 2006.

it is homicide.
shot dead on a hot morning,
running for a train.

Inspired by this...

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:18 am**

Now, I know you dedicated writers are going to laugh at me but, what is the point of haiku?

I have googled it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku but still my tiny brain just don't understand.... why?

In all honesty I have never heard of it until now. If I had read something like this before you all spoke of it, then I would have thought that the author had good ideas and keywords but couldn't organise them to complete his/her work.

Feel free to slate me, but I would sooner understand than not.

Jox

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:18 pm**

I think southpark described a haiku as being something along the lines of

"A Haiku is a japanese poem thats stupid and makes no sense"....

Works for me

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:51 pm**

the_leander wrote:I think southpark described a haiku as being something along the lines of

"A Haiku is a japanese poem thats stupid and makes no sense"....

Works for me

Ah, so it's not me then.

Why do so many people write it? Very strange.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:32 pm**

I like the challenge of writing to such a short structure and the added discipline of mentioning the elements or nature, hones that. Plain and simple. Bit like Karate. Learn the smaller moves and the bigger ones become easier to exercise...

Why don't you two try writing one instead of questioning it? You might even enjoy it. Honest

...

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:33 pm**

Lugh wrote:I like the challenge of writing to such a short structure and the added discipline of mentioning the elements or nature, hones that. Plain and simple. Bit like Karate. Learn the smaller moves and the bigger ones become easier to exercise...

Why don't you two try writing one instead of questioning it? You might even enjoy it. Honest ...

Hahaha

Blue sky scorching sun!
Fun, music love, alcohol.
Perfection with ice

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:33 pm**

Lugh wrote:
Why don't you two try writing one instead of questioning it? You might even enjoy it. Honest ...

I'm not questioning it. I would also point out that I have niether the skill to do poetry or the interest.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:57 pm**

jo wrote:Blue sky scorching sun!
Fun, music love, alcohol.
Perfection with ice

Nice one Jo

the_leander wrote:
I'm not questioning it. I would also point out that I have niether the skill to do poetry or the interest.

Honesty. Always the best policy Alan

I know diddly-squat about computers. Maybe we can learn from one another eh?

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:18 pm**

Good haiku, Jo.

The thing about the form is that it's totally addictive. They're easy to write. Quick. You can GUARANTEE that people will read them because they're so short...

A sonnet takes me about half an hour to write. A 'serious' poem of forty lines takes half a day or more. A haiku can sometimes take half a minute. The sonnet may get read. The long poem will only be read by someone who really wants to read it. The haiku will be probably read by everybody. See what I mean?

I should point out that this refers only to non-Japanese haiku; if you're going to do it absolutely by the classical rules, it probably takes rather more than half a minute to write. Plus you've got to learn Japanese.

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:21 pm**

summer and the death of love.
A Haiku Poem by Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 17th July, 2006.

oh the irony.
summer reaches in, heating
the coldness of us.

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:43 pm**

Thanks Delph and Lugh. I was three parts to the wind when I did it.

Very nice Lugh.

Jox

ps, I agree honesty is always the best policy

Posted: **Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:19 am**

delph_ambi wrote: I should point out that this refers only to non-Japanese haiku; if you're going to do it absolutely by the classical rules, it probably takes rather more than half a minute to write. Plus you've got to learn Japanese.

Learning the Japanese language is more involved then it sounds, you have to learn to *think* like the Japanese also.

The thinking bit I can do, its just the language that remains. Sadly learning Japanese is so low on my list of priorities that I'll probably never get around to doing it, but certainly it would be nice to add to my CV.

Jo, well played

Posted: **Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:25 am**

the_leander wrote:
delph_ambi wrote: I should point out that this refers only to non-Japanese haiku; if you're going to do it absolutely by the classical rules, it probably takes rather more than half a minute to write. Plus you've got to learn Japanese.
Learning the Japanese language is more involved then it sounds, you have to learn to *think* like the Japanese also.

The thinking bit I can do, its just the language that remains. Sadly learning Japanese is so low on my list of priorities that I'll probably never get around to doing it, but certainly it would be nice to add to my CV.

Jo, well played

I will give the Japanese version a go later. We had Japanese lessons years ago (I dropped out, the teacher had the hots for me ole fella). He completed the course and was quite good, probably because she was pretty lol.

Jox

Posted: **Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:11 pm**

now where are you at?
surf on solar breezes. float out.
catch a wave. be free.

Posted: **Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:56 pm**

I've cracked it. Took me ferrking ages, but I can't be beat by a bloody haiku.

senaka ie .....back home..
oboeru itsumo .....remember always
karui bara .....light, rose

se/na/ka i/e
o/be/o/ru i/tsu/mo
ka/ru/i ba/ra

I think I get the point of it all now. In Japanese most things are 1 or 2 letter syllables, making it bloody hard to do the ole 5 7 5 thing, when they have such long words.

I can see the point in writing it in japanese, coz its hard and sort of like a puzzle. I still can't see the point in English (sorry).

Put that in yer pipe and smoke it Mr Lugh, unless you can do better?

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